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Saturday, March 23, 2013

Thracians are E1b1b????

Although Aimos peninsula is the Mixed, specially to south (Byzantnine-ottoman empire, and ancient Greek and roman douloi (worker-services, not sclaves), we see 3 major and one minor Y haplogroups,
the 3 major are E (E-V13, E-M123) J2, I2a2, and the minor is G,
The ancient Thracians was the 2nd Biggest Numerous nation after indians according Herodotus, the map approach gives almost same quantity for all in ancient Thrace but the biiger to inner Europe is I2a2,

if J2 has to do with Greece then what has to do with ancient thracians,
then the around of ancient thracian area has to do with colonization and makedonian expand to east,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieres
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Thracian_Greeks

then the proper genes PIE are the rulers of E or I2,

1rst) Hypothesis

If R connect E that has to do with an arc from egypt then they must have with Gold and customs, so they build pyramids, (greek laconia and bosna and elsewerein balkans,) and cover dead kings face with gold,
Greek E area peloponese, golden mask
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlm6A7-Xqhc
Thracian gold mask found in bulgaria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zlatnamaska.jpg

the possibilty that albanians rulled by thracians from geto-dacia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...race_and_Dacia
the tribe albocense
and the city of alba julia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alba_Julia

links E with ancient thracians

But numerically does not fit,
also does not give passage to miner asia

2nd) the Thracians were rulers of I2

Numerically fits, and makes herodotus state that Dacians are the most taugh among Thracians, cause dacia has more I than E,
a) Explains the passage to minor asia with the big I ratio near Phrygia
causes from makedons we know that the Bruges (mak dialect) b->pf Phruges->Phrygians (Koine),
b)Explains the big I in east makedonia, and low E and Big E in west and small I in West cause Pieri were thracians and the shample from Serres (30% I2) are from were Pieri and Maedi lived,
c) Explains the maedi migration to minor asia (maedi bithynia)
d) Expalins the bithyni-Thyni migration to minor (East Bithynia),

AND THAT I2a2, is a trully european haplogroup that went East and did not come from the west,
maybe explains that a celt R1b ruled over I2a
The big ratio % of I2a2 around bosnia and Serbia where the tribaldi (maybe proto-serbs) ancient Thracian tribe
and the Big I2a2 in Dacia and around
makes me believe THAT ANCIENT THRACIANS WERE CELTS ruled I2a2

1 simple linguistica example
greek-thracian area Serres mari means good woman
greek-cretan dia =day
athenean koine δειλι dili = end of day
Celt-English merry = happy (merry christmas)
Celt-English Day
AlbanoDacian have a nice day ->mire Dita
the mire is probably good
and dita is the day,
if a dacian or an ex-Yugoslavian (hrvatska-bosna-srpski-slovensko)
or a bulgarian can find more lingua its ok

The possibility That Thracians WERE CELTS rulling I is more strong than the 1 approach
The linguistic probably has to do with the persian occupation
the greek influence,
The Roman occupation,
The slavonization
and the scythian and sarmates influence (probably slavonization) around Romania.

The possibility that ancient thracian speak Slavic or proto slavic language is an interesting idea, but i m not a linguist, the possibilty that they return east ....

besides balkan is ..... and the more the data the more map change colours,

for example the jews colonie in salonique,
almost 0% of jews-semetic results although they were and are a big comnunity in thessaly makedonia and thessaloniki 150 000, 50-50 christians- jews.



Its more possible that Herodotus speaking of thracians mention Celts, and celtospeakers, cause slavonick people if were scythians-sarmatians etc were almost unknown or liitle known at that time
besides from north italy to makedonia to ucraine, and also in minor asia, hmmm it is big


http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/26170-An-Approach-to-ancient-Thracian-DNA

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